{"id":228224,"date":"2024-06-25T19:26:42","date_gmt":"2024-06-25T19:26:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newhampshiredigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/06\/25\/he-certainly-wouldnt-work-with-me-or-tony-ever-again\/"},"modified":"2024-06-25T19:26:42","modified_gmt":"2024-06-25T19:26:42","slug":"he-certainly-wouldnt-work-with-me-or-tony-ever-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newhampshiredigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/06\/25\/he-certainly-wouldnt-work-with-me-or-tony-ever-again\/","title":{"rendered":"He Certainly Wouldn&#8217;t Work With Me Or TONY Ever Again"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/metalinjection.net\/tag\/Black-Sabbath\">Black Sabbath<\/a><\/strong>&#8216;s 2013 album, <em>13<\/em>, marked the band&#8217;s last studio work, featuring <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/metalinjection.net\/tag\/Ozzy-Osbourne\">Ozzy Osbourne<\/a><\/strong> on vocals for the first time since 1978&#8217;s <em>Never Say Die<\/em><span style=\"box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;\"><em>!<\/em><\/span> Despite the excitement surrounding this reunion, bassist <strong>Geezer Butler<\/strong> has (<a href=\"https:\/\/metalinjection.net\/shocking-revelations\/geezer-butler-has-no-idea-what-rick-rubin-did-on-black-sabbaths-13\">once again<\/a>) expressed his dissatisfaction with producer <strong>Rick Rubin<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Reflecting on the production process in a conversation with <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Pb1D_dAtkpE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">BraveWords<\/a><\/em>, <strong>Geezer<\/strong> lamented the drawn-out nature of creating <em>13<\/em>. He highlighted the loss of spontaneity and authentic feel, comparing it unfavorably to the band&#8217;s earlier work.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I always think you just lose the spontaneity and the feel of stuff. But when we did the <em>13<\/em> album, that took forever. And some of it was great doing it, and some of it not so good,&#8221; he remarked (as transcribed by <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ultimate-guitar.com\/news\/general_music_news\/geezer_butler_says_tony_iommi_was_incredibly_disappointed_with_rick_rubin_names_best-sounding_black_sabbath_albums.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ultimate Guitar<\/a><\/em>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Geezer<\/strong> went on to explain that the lengthy production time ultimately made the music feel forced, lacking the rawness that characterized their &#8217;70s albums and even the <em>Heaven and Hell<\/em> album, which he thoroughly enjoyed creating.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It just didn&#8217;t have the same feeling like the old &#8217;70s album or even <em>Heaven and Hell<\/em> album. I loved doing <em>Heaven and Hell<\/em>. But yeah, I think the longer you take over something, it becomes forced in the end, and you sort of lose the initial rawness and the feeling of the music.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When asked about the possibility of working with <strong>Rick Rubin<\/strong> again, <strong>Geezer<\/strong>&#8216;s response was unequivocal: &#8220;Nope. He certainly wouldn&#8217;t work with me ever again. Or <strong>Tony<\/strong>. <strong>Tony<\/strong> was incredibly disappointed with him. In fact, <strong>Tony<\/strong> took some of the master tapes and redid them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Geezer<\/strong> also shared his fondness for <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/metalinjection.net\/tag\/Black-Sabbath\">Black Sabbath<\/a><\/strong>&#8216;s earlier albums, which were produced by the relatively obscure <strong>Rodger Bain<\/strong>. He appreciated the simplicity and live feel of those records, free from excessive overdubs: &#8220;I always liked the first three albums because it&#8217;s so basic and you can&#8217;t really go wrong with it. We played them as a live gig in the studio kind of thing. So there was no ridiculous overdubs and all that kind of stuff.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While <strong>Rick Rubin&#8217;<\/strong>s production style has led to numerous successful albums, it clearly didn&#8217;t resonate with the members of <strong><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/metalinjection.net\/tag\/Black-Sabbath\">Black Sabbath<\/a><\/strong><\/strong> during the making of <em>13<\/em>.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\">\n<p>\n<iframe title=\"Black Sabbath\u2019s GEEZER BUTLER Talks with BraveWords and Streaming For Vengeance\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Pb1D_dAtkpE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div class=\"zox-post-body left zoxrel zox100\">\n<h5>Want More Metal? 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