{"id":230788,"date":"2024-09-08T17:37:41","date_gmt":"2024-09-08T17:37:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newhampshiredigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/08\/the-catholic-culture-podcast-139\/"},"modified":"2024-09-08T17:37:41","modified_gmt":"2024-09-08T17:37:41","slug":"the-catholic-culture-podcast-139","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newhampshiredigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/08\/the-catholic-culture-podcast-139\/","title":{"rendered":"The Catholic Culture Podcast: 139"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"date\">Aug 12, 2022<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In a recent video on the<\/span><br \/>\n<em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Pints with Aquinas<\/span><\/em><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">channel, Gregory Pine, O.P. voiced<br \/>\nhis concern that mass entertainment, particularly music and movies,<br \/>\nis often an obstacle to achieving the heavenly end of contemplation<br \/>\nfor which we are made. What is noteworthy is that unlike the<br \/>\ntypical Catholic commentary on pop culture, Fr. Pine does not focus<br \/>\nso much on the moral content of music and movies as how their very<br \/>\nform affects us bodily, psychologically and spiritually.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In this discussion inspired by<br \/>\nFr. Pine\u2019s points, host Thomas Mirus and filmmaker Nathan Douglas<br \/>\nspecify some elements of music and film which are obstacles to the<br \/>\ncontemplative life, but also suggest how, rather than simply<br \/>\neschewing music and movies, we can engage with better art in a<br \/>\ndeeper way which serves the contemplative end of man.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Timestamps:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">0:00 Intro<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">6:31 Fr. Pine video<br \/>\nrecap<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">11:08 Risks of treating media as<br \/>\n\u201cjunk food\u201d rather than demanding better media<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">14:44 Cultivating openness to<br \/>\nmore artistic films<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">17:31 Discursive reasoning is<br \/>\nnot the highest mode of contemplation<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">20:26 Music is the most simply<br \/>\ncontemplative art form<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">22:58 The relation of film to<br \/>\nreality<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">25:13 Advertising and glossiness<br \/>\nin modern cinema<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">29:38 Problem with putting<br \/>\nCatholic content into Hollywood forms<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">31:28 A film\u2019s editing rhythm<br \/>\ncan hinder contemplation<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">38:24 Learning intuitively to<br \/>\ntell hackwork from good craft<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">42:15 Rhythmic excitement<br \/>\ndoesn\u2019t equal mediocrity<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">46:23 Conclusion of film<br \/>\ndiscussion<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">48:02 Applying Augustine\u2019s<br \/>\ntheory of evil as privation to art<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">49:34 The necessity of both<br \/>\nlower and higher forms of music<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">55:46 In what sense should<br \/>\nCatholics \u201cengage with pop culture\u201d?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">59:33 Pop music dominated by<br \/>\ncomputers, focused on lyrics, lack of melody<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:07:53 The personal element in<br \/>\nart<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:12:08 Music, the senses, and<br \/>\ncontemplation beyond words<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:18:22 Music\u2019s stimulation of<br \/>\nthe body<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:22:45 Using music to indulge<br \/>\nemotions<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:27:09 Can music be<br \/>\n\u201cimmoral\u201d?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:32:06 Mistaking slow for good<br \/>\nin film<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:34:11 Educating the faithful<br \/>\nfor artistic depth<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:43:50 Can sense images serve<br \/>\nthe spiritual life?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:49:18 What music communicates<br \/>\nabout reality<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1:56:20 There\u2019s no formula for<br \/>\nbeauty<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">2:01:08 Simple receptivity to<br \/>\nGod\u2019s beauty<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">2:03:54<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Recommended resources<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Resources:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fr. Gregory Pine, \u201cI stopped<br \/>\nlistening to music.\u201d<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=vVh4rHubNOc\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=vVh4rHubNOc<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Elizabeth-Paule Labat,<\/span><br \/>\n<em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Song That I Am: On the<br \/>\nMystery of Music<\/span><\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/litpress.org\/Products\/MW040P\/The-Song-That-I-Am\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\nhttps:\/\/litpress.org\/Products\/MW040P\/The-Song-That-I-Am<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Etienne Gilson,<\/span><br \/>\n<em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Arts of the<br \/>\nBeautiful<\/span><\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Arts-Beautiful-Scholarly-Etienne-Gilson\/dp\/1564782506\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Arts-Beautiful-Scholarly-Etienne-Gilson\/dp\/1564782506<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Criteria: The Catholic Film<br \/>\nPodcast<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/category\/criteria\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\nhttps:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/category\/criteria<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">CCP #126: How Charlie Parker\u2019s<br \/>\nMusic Changed My Life<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/126-how-charlie-parker-changed-my-life\/\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/126-how-charlie-parker-changed-my-life<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">CCP #28: An Introduction to<br \/>\nMaritain\u2019s Poetic Philosophy w\/ Samuel Hazo<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/episode-28-introduction-to-maritains-poetic-philosophy-samuel-hazo\/\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/episode-28-introduction-to-maritains-poetic-philosophy-samuel-hazo<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nathan Douglas,<\/span><br \/>\n<em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Vocation of<br \/>\nCinema<\/span><\/em> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/vocationofcinema.substack.com\">https:\/\/vocationofcinema.substack.com<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Fr. Pine&#8217;s lecture on literature referenced by<br \/>\nNathan\u00a0<a tabindex=\"-1\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/thomisticinstitute\/literature-as-philosophy-fr-gregory-pine-op\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" data-cke-saved-href=\"https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/thomisticinstitute\/literature-as-philosophy-fr-gregory-pine-op\">https:\/\/soundcloud.com\/thomisticinstitute\/literature-as-philosophy-fr-gregory-pine-op<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This podcast is a production of CatholicCulture.org. 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