{"id":295865,"date":"2025-04-30T20:41:55","date_gmt":"2025-04-30T20:41:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newhampshiredigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2025\/04\/30\/the-catholic-culture-podcast-84-disobey-lockdown-now\/"},"modified":"2025-04-30T20:41:55","modified_gmt":"2025-04-30T20:41:55","slug":"the-catholic-culture-podcast-84-disobey-lockdown-now","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newhampshiredigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2025\/04\/30\/the-catholic-culture-podcast-84-disobey-lockdown-now\/","title":{"rendered":"The Catholic Culture Podcast: 84 &#8211; Disobey Lockdown Now"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"date\">Sep 9, 2020<\/p>\n<p>Catholic theologian Douglas Farrow and Lutheran political<br \/>\nscholar Andrew Busch join the show to discuss their recent essays<br \/>\non the coronavirus lockdown, and assess the reasons and prospects<br \/>\nfor civil disobedience.<\/p>\n<p>In \u201cThe Health-First Heresy,\u201d Farrow examines the responses of<br \/>\nCatholic and other Christian leaders to the state\u2019s orders to cease<br \/>\ncorporate worship. Whatever concessions the Church may make to the<br \/>\nstate as to the circumstances under which worship is held, she may<br \/>\nnot simply suspend her proper activities indefinitely until the<br \/>\nstate gives the word.<\/p>\n<p>In \u201cThe Limits of Expertise,\u201d Busch assesses where \u201cfollowing<br \/>\nthe experts\u201d (which ones? in what fields?) has gotten us so far and<br \/>\npoints out the dangers of pretending to replace statesmanship with<br \/>\nexpertise.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Contents<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[8:30] The \u201chealth-first heresy\u201d; the priority of the soul over<br \/>\nthe body<\/p>\n<p>[17:29] Making prudential judgments vs. suspending corporate<br \/>\nworship indefinitely; how much can the Church concede to the state<br \/>\nin matters of worship?<\/p>\n<p>[23:37] We have to realize the world is run by people who have<br \/>\ncontempt for religious worship<\/p>\n<p>[32:09] Areas of overlap between Church and state authority<\/p>\n<p>[40:08] The modern desire to be in complete control surpasses<br \/>\nthe desire to avoid suffering<\/p>\n<p>[42:58] Religious leaders need to plan for the next pretext to<br \/>\nshut down worship<\/p>\n<p>[49:56] Listen to\u2014Which scientists? In what fields?<\/p>\n<p>[56:30] The track record of the experts<\/p>\n<p>[58:56] The legal fallout of accepting lockdowns<\/p>\n<p>[62:47] Shifting the goalposts from \u201cflattening the curve\u201d to<br \/>\neliminating all cases<\/p>\n<p>[1:04:13] Rule by experts is incompatible with the consent of<br \/>\nthe governed<\/p>\n<p>[1:07:47] Other motives behind lockdown<\/p>\n<p>[1:10:29] Why coordinated civil disobedience needs to begin<br \/>\nNOW\u2014no waiting for a vaccine<\/p>\n<p>[1:21:06] Striking a balance between resisting irrational fear<br \/>\nand taking appropriate precautions<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Douglas Farrow, \u201cThe Health-First Heresy\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicworldreport.com\/2020\/08\/07\/the-health-first-heresy\/\"><br \/>\nhttps:\/\/www.catholicworldreport.com\/2020\/08\/07\/the-health-first-heresy\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Andrew Busch, \u201cThe Limits of Expertise\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/americanmind.org\/essays\/the-limits-of-expertise\/\">https:\/\/americanmind.org\/essays\/the-limits-of-expertise\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Douglas Farrow at Catholic World Report <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicworldreport.com\/author\/farrow-douglas\/\">https:\/\/www.catholicworldreport.com\/author\/farrow-douglas\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Andrew Busch at The American Mind <a href=\"https:\/\/americanmind.org\/author\/andrew-busch\/\">https:\/\/americanmind.org\/author\/andrew-busch\/<\/a><br \/>\nand Claremont Review of Books <a href=\"https:\/\/claremontreviewofbooks.com\/author\/andrew-e-busch\/\">https:\/\/claremontreviewofbooks.com\/author\/andrew-e-busch\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Episode 56 on Yves Simon\u2019s <em>General Theory of Authority<\/em><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/episode-56-vindicating-authority-aquinas-guilbeau-op\/\"><br \/>\nhttps:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/episode-56-vindicating-authority-aquinas-guilbeau-op\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Episode 27 with Online Great Books\u2019 Scott Hambrick <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/episode-27-always-wanted-to-study-great-books-heres-how-youll-actually-follow-through-scott-hambrick\/\"><br \/>\nhttps:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/episode-27-always-wanted-to-study-great-books-heres-how-youll-actually-follow-through-scott-hambrick\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Online Great Books opens a new enrollment period on October<br \/>\n13th. Join the waiting list via this referral link to get 25% off<br \/>\nyour first three months! <a href=\"https:\/\/hj424.isrefer.com\/go\/ogbmemberships\/tmirus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/hj424.isrefer.com\/go\/ogbmemberships\/tmirus\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This podcast is a production of CatholicCulture.org. 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