{"id":297066,"date":"2025-08-04T21:35:59","date_gmt":"2025-08-04T21:35:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newhampshiredigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2025\/08\/04\/the-catholic-culture-podcast-ep-65-reason-with-stories-philosophize-with-your-life-vision-of-the-soul-pt-iii\/"},"modified":"2025-08-04T21:35:59","modified_gmt":"2025-08-04T21:35:59","slug":"the-catholic-culture-podcast-ep-65-reason-with-stories-philosophize-with-your-life-vision-of-the-soul-pt-iii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newhampshiredigitalnews.com\/index.php\/2025\/08\/04\/the-catholic-culture-podcast-ep-65-reason-with-stories-philosophize-with-your-life-vision-of-the-soul-pt-iii\/","title":{"rendered":"The Catholic Culture Podcast: Ep. 65 &#8211; Reason With Stories, Philosophize With Your Life (Vision of the Soul Pt. III)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p class=\"date\">Jan 30, 2020<\/p>\n<p>Modernity elevated pure, abstract reasoning as the only way to<br \/>\nknow about reality. Reason having disenchanted everything else,<br \/>\nmodernity then became disenchanted with reason. The ascendancy of<br \/>\nreason over superstitious myths was viewed by the postmodernists as<br \/>\njust another myth to be exposed.<\/p>\n<p>The postmodernists were right to see that the dictates of reason<br \/>\nwere not wholly separate from our lives, self-images and desires,<br \/>\nbut were colored by the stories we tell about ourselves. But they<br \/>\nwere wrong to conclude that reason is therefore inherently<br \/>\nsuspect.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s because human life really is imbued with an intelligible,<br \/>\nnarrative form, and we are capable of telling true stories about<br \/>\nourselves that reflect the actual story-form of our lives and<br \/>\nhistory as a whole. Reason can function as a gloss on the story of<br \/>\ncreation. The mistake was thinking that it could ever be sealed off<br \/>\nin a laboratory to begin with.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s time to go back to seeing our lives and history itself as<br \/>\nthe intelligible stories they really are: to set <em>mythos<\/em><br \/>\nalongside <em>logos<\/em> as an essential way of apprehending<br \/>\ntruth\u2014and then to go beyond both as words dissolve in silent<br \/>\ncontemplation of the One who told the story before it began.<\/p>\n<p>This is the conclusion of a three-part interview with<br \/>\npoet-philosopher James Matthew Wilson about his book <em>The Vision<br \/>\nof the Soul: Truth, Goodness and Beauty in the Western<br \/>\nTradition<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Contents<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[2:52] Recovering the role of storytelling in the perception of<br \/>\ntruth; the modern attempt to isolate reason from narrative<\/p>\n<p>[12:33] How Plato used stories not just as examples but to<br \/>\nadvance his argument and get at a comprehensive truth that reason<br \/>\nreaches only partially and inefficiently<\/p>\n<p>[20:55] Story as the form and meaning of a human life<\/p>\n<p>[24:47] Modern abandonment of story as a means to truth;<br \/>\n<em>logos<\/em> is crippled without <em>mythos<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[30:42] Descartes\u2019 reduction of reason to a tool for the gaining<br \/>\nof mastery over the world<\/p>\n<p>[33:45] The Jordan Peterson-Campbell-Jung archetypal approach as<br \/>\na \u201cpoor man\u2019s metaphysics\u201d<\/p>\n<p>[38:29] <em>Logos<\/em> as a gloss on <em>mythos<\/em><\/p>\n<p>[41:45] Postmodernist suspicion of reason as conditioned by<br \/>\nnarrative<\/p>\n<p>[44:05] The highest form of the intellectual life is silent<br \/>\nprayer, not scholarship or analysis<\/p>\n<p>[49:10] Philosophy as a way of life; the invention of the<br \/>\n\u201cintellectual\u201d as a noun<\/p>\n<p>[53:10] Practical takeaways: pray, ponder and play<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>The Vision of the Soul<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Vision-Soul%20Goodness-Western-Tradition\/dp\/0813229286\"><br \/>\nhttps:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Vision-Soul<br \/>\nGoodness-Western-Tradition\/dp\/0813229286<\/a><\/p>\n<p>James Matthew Wilson <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jamesmatthewwilson.com\/\">https:\/\/www.jamesmatthewwilson.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>JMW Twitter <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JMWSPT\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/JMWSPT<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This podcast is a production of CatholicCulture.org. If you like<br \/>\nthe show, please consider supporting us!<a href=\"http:\/\/catholicculture.org\/donate\/audio\">\u00a0http:\/\/catholicculture.org\/donate\/audio<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><script>(function(d, s, id) {\n      var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];\n      if (d.getElementById(id)) return;\n      js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id;\n      js.src = \"\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/sdk.js#xfbml=1&version=v2.8&appId=834757889913083\";\n      fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs);\n    }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk'));<\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/catholicculturepodcast.libsyn.com\/ep-64-reason-with-stories-philosophize-with-your-life-vision-of-the-soul-pt-iii-james-matthew-wilson\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jan 30, 2020 Modernity elevated pure, abstract reasoning as the only way to know about reality. 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